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posted by: newbie (reply) post date: 08.25.05 (2:55 am) " Do not use her as your poster child. Stand with her or against her, but respect her right to petition her government for redress." I DO listen to Rush Limbaugh. I think what conservatives are ticked off about is the fact that Ms Sheehan has been co-opted by the far left. She has been made the darling of the Michael Moores and Al Frankens. She has every right to grieve any way she wants, but she is turning her son's memory into a political debate. At least in my opinion, this is extremely disrepectful. If the left would actually listen to Mr Limbaugh, instead of reading sound bites edited and released out of context by a media with a more than obvious adgenda, not only would they not misrepresent the facts, they might actually learn something. We all mourn Casey Sheehan and the other 1800 plus service men and women that have fallen in Iraq and Afghanistan. I just ask that we show them respect and honor. These men and women chose the military because they believed in this countries ideals. If Casey's mother disagrees with her son's choice, she should keep it to herself and avoid disrespecting a fallen hero posted by: gesn (reply) post date: 08.26.05 (7:22 am) "If the left would actually listen to Mr Limbaugh, instead of reading sound bites edited and released out of context by a media with a more than obvious adgenda, not only would they not misrepresent the facts, they might actually learn something." Now that's funny! Can the Esteemed Mr. Limbaugh do anything but take things out of context? And how is asking why he had to die a form of disrespect? I'm sure she should just mourn in the background, not be an activist and let George get on with his little war of choice .... posted by: newbie (reply) post date: 08.27.05 (5:19 am) "And how is asking why he had to die a form of disrespect?" Casey himself chose to join the service to defend the American ideal. For his mother to turn his death into a media event seems to shout that his patriotism was somehow misguided. How would you feel if YOUR father went on TV telling the world that homosexuals were perverted freaks of nature? posted by: gesn (reply) post date: 08.30.05 (3:01 am) Reply to: newbie That's stupid. My brother volunteered to serve in the military and is in Iraq right now. He's doing his duty. That doesn't mean that he's there for a good reason. He's there because of a series of big lies. Likewise, Casey Sheehan died for those same lies. As for the gay thing, what does that have to do with anything? I'm not gay because someone lied to me about how noble it is ... I'm gay because I was born gay. posted by: newbie (reply) post date: 08.31.05 (6:48 am) Your brother and my son are there because THEY believed that it was the right thing to do. You call the reasons our President went there lies. I submitt that those reasons were not lies, but very valid reasons based on the intelligence we had at the time. If Sadam didn't have WMD'd, why didn't he allow inspectors to verify that?. Terms of the '91 peace were violated and he made every effort to make the world think he still had stockpiles at his disposal. He was under the false impression that liberals in out country and the polititions in Germany and France would stop ant effort by the US to enforce the treaty he signed. As far as the gay refference I made, I only used that an example that I was sure you would identify with. As your lifestyle seems to be open for the world to see, I didn't believe that you would take offense. It seems you have and though that was not my intention, it causes me to wonder if you might be just a tad ashamed. posted by: gesn (reply) post date: 09.01.05 (8:53 am) Reply to: newbie I am not ashamed about being gay nor was I offended by your comment - I simply don't see a valid parallel. As for you comments about Saddam Hussein and letting weapons inspectors verify he didn't have WMDs, what are you talking about? The inspectors were there, Saddam Hussein was cooperating but the Bushies didn't want to hear any of that. You can think what you want, but it won't change my mind that this is a war of convenience, that the Administration cooked the intelligence and that we should never have gone there in the first place. All evidence as well as global public opinion are on my side - so maybe you need to re-examine where you're getting your information. posted by: newbie (reply) post date: 09.01.05 (10:49 am) The inspectors WERE there, when it was conveinient for Sadam, but Sadam was obstructing their searches where and when ever he could. If there were no weapons, why didn't he cooperate and let the inspectors verify it? If Bush cooked the intelligence, then why did Bill Clinton state years earlier that Sadam had WMD's? You are a typical liberal. You only get your news from CNN or other Liberal rags and could care less about FACTS. posted by: gesn (reply) post date: 09.05.05 (4:17 am) Reply to: newbie You pre-decide what a 'liberal' is going to believe, where they get their information and how they lead their life. Maybe, just maybe, I don't conform to your pre-determined opinions. You get told what to think and you get told what 'we' think (as if anyone who's not a conservative has the same opinion on every topic). It's funny that while the anti-war protesteers were right about virtually every reason given for not going to war, that we're still the bad guys for not just doing our patriotic duty and agreeing with the government. posted by: newbie (reply) post date: 09.06.05 (11:20 am) I know what the typical Liberal thinks and believes because I talk to them. I also listen to Air America and other Liberal media so that I can speak from an informed position. My assumptions are based in solid facts. The typical conversation I have with my "progressive" friends shows a nearly oblivious state of mind. They typically can only regurgitate what they've heard Katie Couric or Randy Rhodes say on a subject. The typical staunch Democratic voter is very ill informed and unable to answer the simplest question about current events, elected officials or constitutional issues. You seem to be an intelligent man and fairly well informed but you still fall back to using Liberal talking points in your argument. Fine. I'll conceed that there have been no WMD's found in Iraq. I feel that they were moved to Syria in the weeks before the war, but let's assume that I'm wrong. The best intelligence that we had at the time pointed to an overwhelming probability that there were WMD's there. Sadam, based on that assumption was in violation of numerous UN resolutions and the '91 treaty. He had to be considered a threat to the region and ultimately to the United States. OK, so we're there and we have removed Sadam from power. What now? You would have the US pull out the troops and abandon the Iraqis with no hope of a stable government, and no hope of freedom or happiness. They would be condemed to a life where their women would again face rape and torture and men would be put to death for living the lifestyle that you are free to enjoy in this country. You may not care about women's rights, but are you so against American intervention in Iraq that you believe that the US should be the only country with gay rights? |
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